Flugregelwechsel im Formationsflug?

[Emiel Ekamper]

Interesting topic this is! Nice info Jakob.

Ein Join-up wird immer von hinten und von below gemacht, da muss dann einer straight and level fliegen und der andere hat zu joinen!

For those who are interested, found a recording which clearly explains how ATC vectors aircraft to the 'target'. The recording is about training-interceptions.

This recording is from Bandbox (Dutch Fightercontol, like German Round-Up etc) and Blade1 (F16). Still working on getting to know all the phrases they use, slowly getting there with Jörg's help

http://callsigns.xs4all.nl/trips/bar...%20bandbox.mp3

Regards.
Emiel

PS: sorry for polluting the topic with English, can read German okay, but can't write it very well.

[Jakob Grzywacz]

Ain't worry wheather writin' enlish or german. Most of us can cope with this, allthough not every German understand every other German. So what! Thanks for the audio Emiel! Really good...!

[Emiel Ekamper]

3. ATC wird dir Vectors geben, um dich in die Nähe des Flugzeuges zu bringen, above FL290 wirst du 2000ft unter und mindestens 5NM (midestens den Wert der Radarstaffelung) an das Flugzeug geführt, unter FL290 1000Fuß below.

Do have a question about the quote. The separation of 2000ft above FL290 is because military traffic is non-RVSM? I believe Dutch F16's were, but can be wrong about that. At least I never put sts/nonrvsm in my fpl, only sts/nonrnav


Grtz,
emiel

[Jakob Grzywacz]

That's the fact. RVSM is the reason for 2000ft. Perhaps when all involved aircraft are RVSM approved, seperation may be reduced to 1000ft. You're right about German Military Aircraft are not RVSM approved. Allthough the CL604, A310 are, they are flying for the "Ministry of Defence" from EDDK and EDDT. The CL604 is used for VIP transports and the A310 mainly for Troup transports.