[Sa, 05.01.2008 / USA/Chicago] MITRE Op 1 - Chicago Area Program (CAP)

[Kai Klingenberg]

[quotet from vatsim.net forum]

Greetings VATSIM members,

You may have seen a recent post in the forums where VATSIM announced a
potential partnership with MITRE (http://www.mitrecaasd.org/international/,
a not-for-profit research, development and consulting firm that deals with airspace
issues for many countries around the world. MITRE sees the potential in working with VATSIM to
leverage our many strengths, primarily our ability to stand up a
significant number of skilled pilots to participate in their airspace
research experiments.

To explore this potential partnership, VATSIM and MITRE will be hosting
a fly-in event within the Chicago ARTCC on Saturday, January 5th, 2008.
This first event is a test for MITRE to learn how VATSIM events work,
and for VATSIM to explore ways to deliver the results MITRE needs, by
providing pilots that are comfortable flying a provided route and can
handle their aircraft skillfully while accurately following ATC
instructions.

Included is a link to the MITRE/VATSIM event sign-up page, created
specifically for this initial trial event:

http://www.mitrecaasd.org/vatsim/

To participate as a pilot, you may register with your VATSIM ID and a
password of your choosing, then answer a few questions for MITRE's stats.
After registering, proceed to the routes page and select a route to
fly. Be sure to practice the route to ensure you can fly it accurately!
If you have trouble flying the event, such as if your FMS doesn't have
all the listed fixes, then please reserve a different route.

Note that the callsigns listed are the ones MITRE would like all pilots
to use (regardless of VA affiliation; if you want to advertise your VA,
please use the flight plan remarks field), and they desire us to fly the
aircraft listed and use the listed equipment code; i.e., FMS with RVSM,
so be sure you can fly this aircraft with this equipment before taking
the route. If you don't have the specific aircraft listed, you may fly
one that has similar performance characteristics.

Note that all times listed are CST local times (UTC -6).

There will be significant SUP resources on hand to ensure this event
executes well. There is a chance that a pilot may get disconnected if
their flight begins to hamper the experiment; we're working on a web
site that will list the tightened requirements for flying in this event.
If you are disconnected during the event, you will be referred to this
web page for an explanation as to why. Unless the pilot was completely
out of line, there will be no punitive actions for disconnects done to
support the experiment. We are concerned only about creating a
worthwhile test environment for these VATSIM/MITRE cooperative events.
All are welcome to fly, just realize that we will be requiring that
pilots fly their routes accurately and respond to ATC instructions quickly.

Undoubtedly there will be many questions regarding this events and to
help answer those, VATSIM has created a special forum to help answer all
your question. Please visit http://forums.vatsim.net/


Event signups are open, sign up now, and we'll see you in the virtual skies on
Saturday, January 5th!

http://www.mitrecaasd.org/vatsim/


Description of the event:

Saturday, January 5, 2008, 1400-1600 CST (2000-2200 UTC)

http://www.mitrecaasd.org/vatsim/

In order to simplify the use of the new departure fixes and create an interesting traffic mix, MITRE/CAASD is providing a set of flight plans to be used for this event. These flight plans were used in some of the original airspace analyses; flying routes that use these new departure fixes requires RNAV capable avionics and updated databases.

The set of flight plans has the following characteristics:

* About 480 routes are available. Callsigns and routes are unique.
* Departures within ZAU:
o only from ORD and MDW, 260 total departures
o scheduled in roughly 2 minute intervals over a two hour period
o ORD departure schedule models roughly 100 departures/hour
o MDW departure schedule models roughly 30 departures/hour
* Arrivals within ZAU:
o only destinations are ORD and MDW, 200 total arrivals
o maximum flight time is 2.5 hours
o scheduled in roughly 3 minute intervals over a two hour period
o ORD arrival schedule models roughly 80 arrivals/hour
o MDW arrival schedule models roughly 30 departures/hour
o departure times use estimates of total flight time to schedule
arrivals into MDW or ORD within the scheduled event
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[Paul Holtkamp]

BTW: Habt Ihr Euch mal die eine (!) Departure-Karte für O'Hare angeguckt? Ich zitiere nur: "All aircraft expect radar vectors to first enroute navaid/fix." Da wundert mich überhaupt nicht, dass die über "redesign of airspace" nachdenken. Eher wundert mich schon, dass man das laut Eventpage erst seit 1999 tut .

Viele Grüße

[Claus Schuelke]

Das ist normal für eine ganze Reihe der grossen US-Airports - und klappt sehr gut - auch in real world.

Allerdings, KORD ist wegen des immensen Verkehrsaufkommens ein Grenzfall

[Hajo Lippke]

Wer fliegt alles mit? Ich habe mich als EGF989 angemeldet (keine Ahnung, was das für´n Callsign is ), Start um 1918z in KSAW...


HAJO

[Tobias Rad]

Zitat von Hajo Lippke

Wer fliegt alles mit? Ich habe mich als EGF989 angemeldet (keine Ahnung, was das für´n Callsign is ), Start um 1918z in KSAW...


HAJO

EGF ist American Eagle, Callsign "Eagle Flight"
Ich bin dabei als EGF250 von Battle Creek (Kalamzoo Airport), da war ich vor gut einem Jahr auch in echt. Abflug ist um 1925z.

[Christoph Reppel]

AAL 779 KORD-KSAT Dep 1942Z.
Nehme mal an das ist die Take off Zeit.

[Daniel Rösen]

Was wird denn in dem Fragebogen alles abgefragt? Leider kann man das nicht vorab einsehen.

[Claus Schuelke]

@Hajo
American Eagle ist eine Regional-Fluggesellschaft mit kleinerem Fluggerät und Tochter von American Airlines

@Daniel
nichts wirklich Privates, sondern Rechner, Flusi, Flugstunden und sowas

@Christoph
Es dürfte sich - wie in real world auch - um die off-block-time handeln, also lieber rechtzeitig einloggen

Ich bin als AAL2353 mit einer MD82 von KORD nach KDFW gefiled. Depart time 2020 UTC...

Ach ja Junx, noch mal das FMC-Manual durchgehen: Es werden offensichtlich gewillkürte
waypoints einzuprogrammieren sein - in meinem Fall ein place/bearing/distance point.

Und die SUPs sollen wohl jeden kicken, der aus der Reihe tanzt...;-)

[Hajo Lippke]

Nix wirklich schwieriges: Zeit bei VATSIM, monatliche Flugzeit, Gesamtstundenzahl als Pilot/Controller, bevorzugter Flieger.

Ah, Eagle Flight. Wie es der Zufall will habe ich gerade vor n paar Tagen eine E145 mit eben dieser Lackierung installiert, das passt also prima.

Wird es ATC auf den Umgebungsplätzen geben oder ist man da "frei"? Hätte ja den Vorteil, dass man dann recht genau die Departure-Zeit einhalten kann.

Was ich aber etwas seltsam finde ist die Cruise-Speed. 433 KIAS sind schon af FL260 für eine E145 nicht zu machen, dasselbe auf FL360 ist schon Überschall...


HAJO

[Hajo Lippke]

Wat für Waypoints? Kommen die vom ATC? Muss ich mir als FSNav-User Sorgen machen?